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	<title>Comments on: Manage Mail In the Deferred Queue</title>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 18:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the example you can see that the mail is in the deferred queue because it was sent as the user, not necessarily to the right usr;

&quot;The message carried your return address, so it was either a genuine mail
from you, or a sender address was faked and your e-mail address abused
by third party, in which case we apologize for undesired notification.&quot;

Postfix is recognizing that the origin of the mail was an attempt to act as if the mail came from the user it was intended for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the example you can see that the mail is in the deferred queue because it was sent as the user, not necessarily to the right usr;</p>
<p>&#8220;The message carried your return address, so it was either a genuine mail<br />
from you, or a sender address was faked and your e-mail address abused<br />
by third party, in which case we apologize for undesired notification.&#8221;</p>
<p>Postfix is recognizing that the origin of the mail was an attempt to act as if the mail came from the user it was intended for.</p>
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		<title>By: Stijn Gruwier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stijn Gruwier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 18:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,
Interesting post, made me come up with these questions:

1) I see you have a nice &quot;Postfix log summaries for Feb 17&quot;, is this generated manually or do you have a script for this? Can we have it? :-P
I know of tools to analyze the current postfix queues (qshape and pfqueue), but I haven&#039;t used any tools yet to gather historical stats.


2) You say:

&quot;One of the major reasons that messages are deferred is that your server is going to place mail to “unknown recipients” into the deferred queue if they do not have a legitimate user to go to.&quot;

Maybe I&#039;m wrong, but if there isn&#039;t a legitimate user to deliver the mail to, wouldn&#039;t postfix bounce the mail instead of putting it into the deferred queue? I think the deferred queue is only for mail which has permanent problems (eg because of greylisting), while a permanent problem causes a bounce.

Regards,
Stijn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
Interesting post, made me come up with these questions:</p>
<p>1) I see you have a nice &#8220;Postfix log summaries for Feb 17&#8243;, is this generated manually or do you have a script for this? Can we have it? <img src='http://postfixmail.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I know of tools to analyze the current postfix queues (qshape and pfqueue), but I haven&#8217;t used any tools yet to gather historical stats.</p>
<p>2) You say:</p>
<p>&#8220;One of the major reasons that messages are deferred is that your server is going to place mail to “unknown recipients” into the deferred queue if they do not have a legitimate user to go to.&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m wrong, but if there isn&#8217;t a legitimate user to deliver the mail to, wouldn&#8217;t postfix bounce the mail instead of putting it into the deferred queue? I think the deferred queue is only for mail which has permanent problems (eg because of greylisting), while a permanent problem causes a bounce.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Stijn</p>
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